'Boss Lady Energy': Amy Robach Recalls Being the 'Breadwinner' in Past Relationships Prior to T.J. Holmes

Amy Robach is looking back on being a “breadwinner” in her past relationships.

On the latest episode of the Amy & T.J. Podcast — released on Tuesday, June 4 — Robach, 51, and her partner T.J. Holmes discussed with matchmaker Thalia Ouimet the power of embracing “feminine energy.”

“I'm understanding that a little bit more now than I ever have before in my life, but I was always on the other side of things. Always,” Robach shared of rediscovering her feminine energy.

“I'm listening to you. I'm laughing because for the first time I'm open to that part of me that I haven't been before,” she told Ouimet. “I've always been like, no. I'm the doer. I'm the getter. I'm the maker. I'm the creator. I'm the breadwinner… and so it's interesting about accepting and not just accepting, but embracing the other side of yourself in the right relationship.”

Earlier in the conversation, Holmes, 46, revealed that the pair’s former colleagues didn’t see that side of Robach — who was previously married to Andrew Shue and Tim McIntosh —when she asked if he was “turned off” by her “boss lady energy.”

“What is the thing I say to you all the time? You are such a sweetheart,” he told Robach. “I wish other people knew that. And really, she's this tender, she's sweet and that feminine energy maybe you speak of, but as a colleague and seeing her around the studio for so long, nobody has any clue about the person I know.” 

On the May 20 episode of their couple’s podcast, Robach revealed that Holmes “won’t let” her pay for their dates.

“We had a lot of back and forth in the beginning and it was quite funny,” she admitted. “Because if I t -

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ried to pay for some of it or all of it, I got a Venmo back immediately with an extra $5 attached saying that was funny. Sometimes, you actually give me the middle finger emoji.”

Holmes said that he views dating in “a more traditional way,” saying, “We go to dinner, the man pays. That's just it. From the moment I joined ABC News, you were already there. There's not a moment, a day in our ABC careers that I made more money than you did.”

“But still, once we started dating, you didn't pay for a meal,” he continued. 

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Robach shared later in the podcast that she felt uneasy about the setup without financial contributing, saying, “I also feel uncomfortable being a working woman who is able to take care of herself to not contribute when it comes to going out on dates and meals and all of that. So initially, when we first started dating, I felt really uncomfortable with you paying for everything on one hand.”

“On the other hand, I'm gonna be really honest here,” she added. “I liked it. There's this thing about women, like, do we want to have this women's lib thing where we're independent and we can do everything ourselves, but there's still something in me that really appreciated the fact that you wanted to pay for the bills. Actually not wanted to, you insisted on it at all costs. And there was something really, I thought, beautiful about that…You're a gentleman.”

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